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Thread: Replacing original speaker mesh-covering...

  • 05-24-2011, 18:08#1

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    Question Replacing original speaker mesh-covering...

    I was thinking of replacing the original speaker-mesh covering w/ some perforated ultra-suede (lightweight upholstery/furnishing grade; anthracite/charcoal in color). Would that affect sound-quality (I know, an asinine question, considering the OEM Bose sound-system performance as-is)...

    With the years passing, the original speaker-mesh covering on the door-mounted speakers has seen better days as it's a bit weathered & faded. The rest of the interior (carpets, seats, dash, trim, etc) are not showing wear-&-tear age, so I'm compelled to redo the speaker-covers.

    Here's what another Prime member did: cleaned speaker covers (before and after shots)

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  • 05-24-2011, 18:50#2

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    I was just looking at replacing this too. Found some so called premium stuff on eBay I was going to order to try out

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  • 05-25-2011, 06:49#3

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    Re: Replacing original speaker mesh-covering...

    how do you get the speaker cover off?

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  • 05-25-2011, 07:16#4

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    Re: Replacing original speaker mesh-covering...

    Osiris - Any acoustically transparent speaker grill cloth will work fine. You will need to use some type of adhesive on the back side of the inner part of the OEM speaker grill BUT don't use too much or it will bleed thru the grill cloth on the other side. For a quick job you can use the 3M spray adhesive but I prefer a small brush and a bottle of rubber cement for more precise work.

    I'm secretly hoping one of the vendors will produce metallic speaker grills the new Audis have. They might look gaudy in this pic but they look very nice in person.


  • 05-25-2011, 07:43#5

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    Re: Replacing original speaker mesh-covering...

    RYU,
    wow I love that look, I would pay top dollar for those grills.

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  • 05-25-2011, 07:48#6

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    Re: Replacing original speaker mesh-covering...

    robbiedawg you need to remove the door panel, then look at the backside of the speaker grill and you will see where you bend the tabs and it will pop out.

    replace using one of Ryu methods to glue the new cover on pop it back in
    bend the tabs back real tight, reinstall door panel and your done. I did mine took about 15 minutes each door.

    you can get speaker fabric from anywhere I got mine from a fabric store

    .13 cents a foot so you need about 2'X2' square to be safe and can make 2 covers

    Last edited by shawn110975; 05-25-2011 at 09:06.


  • 05-25-2011, 08:07#7

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    Re: Replacing original speaker mesh-covering...

    Any stretchy nylon material will work (my wife HAD a black nylon shirt that worked perfectly ). Nylon breathes easily and won't restrict air movement or sound from the speakers. You don't have to glue anything. If you stretch the material over the metal tabs that hold the grill in place it holds fine and fits perfectly.

  • 05-25-2011, 12:38#8

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    Re: Replacing original speaker mesh-covering...

    A suede-like material would indeed hurt the sound, especially at high frequencies. I replaced the tan covers on my door speakers with black. Normal speaker grill fabric is available from places like Parts Express. It is stretchy and you can find it in lots of colors. I replaced my tan fabric with black. Shows less dirt and the contrast is nice.

    Remove the door panels.

    The speaker grills are punched sheet metal and held in with bent metal tabs. Gently bend them so they can be removed.

    Pull off the old material. They are glued on so they may leave a bit of residue but unless it is a lot you can probably ignore.

    Cut new fabric 1 inch larger all around than the grill

    Spray metal grill with spray adhesive

    Set on the new fabric; stretch new fabric around the grill metal wrap it over the edge. Use spring clamps or similar to hold fabric until glue sets.

    Trim excess fabric with scissors.

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    Whether it’s a cheap pair of computer speakers, a high-end surround sound system, or an arrangement of loudspeakers for live sound venues, you’ll often find grilles or mesh in front of the speakers. However, this is not always the case!

    Why do some speakers have grilles/mesh and others don’t? Speaker grilles/ meshes are used to protect the driver element and other internal components of the speaker from foreign particles while allowing sound to pass as clearly as possible. This often compromises sound, which is worth it in some speakers but not in others.

    In this quick article, we’ll discuss how grilles and meshes protect speakers and alter the speaker’s sound. We’ll also go over the differences between hard grilles and soft grilles and the pros and cons of having or not having a perforated protective layer.

    Note that I’ll be using the terms grille and mesh interchangeably throughout this article.

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    • What Are Microphone Grilles And Why Are They Important?
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    The Purpose Of A Protective Grille

    The primary function of having a grille and/or mesh in front of a speaker is for protection.

    This is why you’ll nearly always see these perforated shields in public address speakers, instrument amplifier cabinets, and other speakers that are regularly moved around and have a higher risk of being damaged.

    Car audio speakers will also have grilles to protect them from normal wear and tear.

    On the other hand, Studio monitors are designed to sound as accurate as possible for stationary use in audio/music studios. They, therefore, typically do not have protective grilles/mesh.

    For the sake of speaker longevity, we must keep the diaphragm, voice coil and the rest of the driver protected. This can be done by keeping the speaker out of harm’s way or shielding it with a grille.

    Grilles and mesh provide the physical protection needed to keep potentially harmful dust and debris out of the speaker drivers and enclosures. They also provide a physical protective barrier from greater physical trauma that could tear or otherwise damage the speaker cone.


    Do Grilles Affect The Sound Of The Speaker?

    Any impedance to sound waves will affect their propagation, even if grilles are largely designed not to affect the sound of their speakers.

    The perforated protective shields known as grilles and meshes do, in fact, impact the sound of their speakers. Generally speaking, the sound quality will be subjectively better when the grille is removed.

    Because grilles are placed in front of the speaker drivers, they can affect the sound in the following ways:

    • Sound waves can get blocked by the grille and fail to escape the speaker’s construction.
    • Reflections can send sound waves back toward the speaker cone, causing comb-filtering, phase cancellation and strange resonances.
    • Absorption can happen where the grille mesh absorbs some sound energy and reduces the strength of the sound waves.
    • Rattle can happen if the grille is loose and the speaker is turned up too loud.
    • The grille adds its own resonances to the overall speaker sound (though typically negligible).

    Note that, without a grille, the driver’s sound is able to propagate from the speaker without any acoustic impedance from the speaker itself.


    Soft Mesh Vs. Hard Grilles

    A speaker’s acoustically transparent protective layer will typically be soft or hard. Let’s discuss the two types briefly.

    Soft Speaker Mesh

    Soft speaker grilles are made from various fabrics (weaved or stitched), foam and other soft materials.

    We see soft speaker meshes on some guitar amps, home theatre speakers, computer speakers, and other speaker types.

    The Bose Companion 2 Series III (link to check the price on Amazon) is a pair of computer speakers with soft mesh.

    Bose is featured in the following My New Microphone articles:
    • Top 11 Best Home Speaker Brands You Should Know And Use
    • Top 11 Best PA Loudspeaker Brands You Should Know And Use
    • Top 10 Best Loudspeaker Brands (Overall) On The Market Today
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    • Top 13 Best Headphone Brands In The World
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    • Top 8 Best Portable Bluetooth Speaker Brands On The Market

    Soft speaker mesh is relatively absorptive and produces fewer reflections, phase issues and resonances than its hard counterpart.

    It is also freer to move along with the sound waves, thereby reducing its impedance to the sound produced by the speaker. This quality also makes soft mesh grilles less prone to rattling when the speaker produces high sound pressure levels.

    The soft mesh grille may offer more or less water resistance to the overall speaker design depending on the material used.

    As for protection from physical trauma, the soft speaker grille is susceptible to being torn and/or stretched. Once damaged, it may not fully protect the speaker from being torn and/or stretched as well.

    Over my years of gigging as a guitarist, I’ve learned that the soft mesh grilles of my guitar cabinets are easily stretched when improperly packing up with the rest of the gear.

    Hard Speaker Mesh

    As the name suggests, hard speaker mesh is made of hard materials, including various metals, woods, and hard plastics. These meshes can be constructed and perforated by drilling holes in a thin sheet or by crosshatching/placing thin strips of material closely together.

    We’ll most often see hard speaker mesh on PA speakers, stage monitors and other speakers that are designed for rougher wear and tear.

    The Electro-Voice ELX200-10P (link to check the price on Amazon) is an excellent example of a PA speaker with a hard mesh.

    Electro-Voice is featured in the following My New Microphone articles:
    • Top 11 Best Subwoofer Brands (Car, PA, Home & Studio)
    • Top 11 Best PA Loudspeaker Brands You Should Know And Use
    • Top 11 Best Microphone Brands You Should Know And Use

    Hard speaker mesh offers improved protection from larger items that could potentially tear, stretch or otherwise damage the speaker cone.

    However, because the mesh is hard, it has less give and is more prone to rattling than soft mesh. It’s also that case the hard speaker mesh produces more reflections, phase issues and resonances in the speaker design.

    Another downside is that the larger perforations may allow smaller particles like rain and dust to reach the speaker and cause problems.

    For this reason, we’ll sometimes find that hard speaker meshes have a soft mesh directly behind.


    So Why Do Some Speakers Have Grilles/Mesh & Others Don’t?

    As we’ve discussed, speaker grilles provide protection at the expense of altering the speaker’s sound.

    So protective grilles are generally preferred for speakers that are susceptible to damage. Common reasons for speaker grilles include:

    • Moving the speakers often from place to place.
    • Placing the speakers on stage.
    • Having speakers in the same room as pets and infants.
    • Having speakers in automobiles.

    However, there are instances where the protection of a grille is not worth its effects on speaker performance. Let’s discuss the speakers that do better without a grille.

    The first speaker type we should mention that benefits from being grille-less is the studio monitor.

    Studio monitors are designed to reproduce audio as accurately as possible. To place a grille in front of studio monitor drivers would obscure parts of the sound waves and needlessly complicate the speaker design.

    Even if the monitor was designed to sound excellent with a grille, it would likely cause issues at varying sound pressure levels and require maintenance.

    That being said, there are studio monitors that use grilles. One such example is the Yamaha HS7 (link to check the price at B&H Photo/Video), which has a protective grille over its tweeter but no grille over its woofer:

    Yamaha is featured in the following My New Microphone articles:
    • Top 11 Best Studio Monitor Brands You Should Know And Use
    • Top 11 Best Subwoofer Brands (Car, PA, Home & Studio)
    • Top 11 Best PA Loudspeaker Brands You Should Know And Use
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    • Top 10 Best Live Sound Mixing Board/Console Brands
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    • Top 11 Best Soundbar Brands On The Market

    High-powered subwoofers may also suffer from speaker grilles. This is because their very loud low-frequency waves may cause rattling in the grille and acoustic distortion to the sound.

    Subwoofers often come with detachable grilles. The Sony SA-CS9 115W 10″ Subwoofer (link to check the price at B&H Photo/Video) is a great example.

    Sony is featured in the following My New Microphone articles:
    • Top 11 Best AV Receiver Brands In The World
    • Top 14 Best Earphone/Earbud Brands In The World
    • Top 13 Best Headphone Brands In The World
    • Top 9 Best Car Stereo Brands In The World
    • Top 11 Audio Portable/Field Audio Mixer/Recorder Brands
    • Top 11 Best Soundbar Brands On The Market
    • Top 8 Best Portable Bluetooth Speaker Brands On The Market

    Other speakers, like those in smartphones and computers, do not require grilles since they are already enclosed in a protective case.


    Related Questions

    What is the purpose of a speaker? The purpose of a speaker transducer is to convert audio signals (in the form of electrical energy) into sound waves (in the form of mechanical wave energy). By doing so, speakers can reproduce prerecorded or live broadcast audio in a format that we can hear (sound).

    How do I fix a blown-out speaker? Speaker blow-out is an all-encompassing term that refers to a damaged speaker. Blow-out is often a result of a burned or melted voice coil but can also happen from a stretch or tear in the diaphragm and housing. To properly fix a blown speaker, carefully replace the damaged part(s).


    This article has been approved in accordance with the My New Microphone Editorial Policy.

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