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Hang tight, creators and enthusiasts, eventually AMD will get around to launching its next generation of Ryzen Threadripper processors for heavy metal computing from home. It just might be a little bit longer than you hoped. Nothing has been officially announced, but rumor has it the launch has been delayed again, leading to a 2022 release.

AMD's high-end desktop (HEDT) is pretty much the final destination (maybe) for AMD's Zen 3 architecture. We already have Zen 3 options among AMD's mainstream desktop and laptop processor lines, including Pro models, and APUs as well. Same goes for the server space, with the latest generation EPYC processors featuring Zen 3 inside. There are not many stones left to turn.

News of the delay comes from leaker @greymon55, who responded to a sort of all-encompassing roadmap posted to Twitter, purporting to show timelines for various AMD, Intel, and NVIDIA products. The supposed roadmap still showed the Ryzen Threadripper 5000 series being destined for a November 2021 launch.

Chagall Tweet

"Chagall seems to be delayed again, probably next year," @greymon55 responded.

He is referring to the codename for AMD's next round of Threadripper CPUs. It is also possible that we could still see Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000 chips in November, followed by non-Pro models next year, but nobody knows for sure.

It's worth noting that some Threadripper Pro 5000 series models have shown up in benchmark and other leaks over the past couple of months. In late August, for example, a database entry for the [email protected] distributed computing project identified the CPU as being a Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5995WX processor, with 64 cores and 128 threads.

Later that month, the same CPU model made a benchmark cameo, putting the performance smack-down on its Zen 2 predecessor, the Ryzen Threadripper Pro 3559WX.

There was also that hacking incident at Gigabyte, in which infiltrators plundered confidential documents containing information about unreleased products, including next-gen Threadripper CPUs. So if you add it all together, it seems a Threadripper 5000 series launch has to be close, whether it's just the Pro models at first or the full lineup.

Next-gen Threadripper CPUs will still max out at 64 cores and 128 threads. There's also regular Ryzen refresh on the horizon, with stacked 3D V-cache for a boost in performance in certain workloads (like gaming), and of course it's only a matter of time before Zen 4 arrives (probably late next year). So, there's plenty of stuff in the pipeline at AMD.


AMD's Zen 3 Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5995WX and 5945WX Pop Up

AMD hasn't announced its Zen 3-based Ryzen Threadripper 5000-series processors codenamed Chagall, but apparently, at least a few of them are in the wild. Two entries in the [email protected] database confirm AMD is prepping the Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5995WX and the Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5945WX CPUs. 

As the model numbers suggest, AMD's Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5995WX will be the company's next-gen flagship processor for high-end workstations. We already know from the leaks based on data stolen from Gigabyte that AMD's Chagall CPUs will max out at 64 cores, so the core count of the model 5995WX is easy to guess. Meanwhile, the Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5945WX will actually be a high-frequency processor with 'only' 12 cores.  

The two CPUs were tested by running the [email protected] distributed computing project client on two different PCs on August 23 and August, as discovered by @Benchleaks. The CPUs were detected as the AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5995WX 64-Cores [Family 25 Model 8 Stepping 2] and the AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5945WX 12-Cores [Family 25 Model 8 Stepping 2]. 

Obviously, AMD's Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000WX-series family will have more than two models, so we expect more SKUs to emerge. While this is speculation for now, the family could also include 16-core and 32-core models, just like the Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000WX lineup. 

Like the existing AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro 3000WX family, the upcoming 5000WX lineup will probably feature 128 spare PCIe lanes to connect all kinds of accelerators and storage devices, as well as eight DDR4 memory channels to support up to 2TB of DRAM. Perhaps AMD will have other perks for its next-generation workstation CPUs, but they are yet to be revealed. 

Rumor has it that AMD intends to introduce its next-generation Ryzen Threadripper 5000-series processors this November, while the Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000WS-series will follow in early 2022. However, it should be noted that AMD does not pre-announce official launch timeframes for its future products.

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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5000 series to arrive in August with up to 64 cores

AMD announced its Threadripper 3000 series in November 2019, with the Threadripper 3990X joining the Zen 2 ranks three months later. Since then, AMD has released its Zen 3 architecture, which has come to market in the company's Ryzen 5000 APU (Cezanne), Ryzen 5000 CPU (Vermeer) and EPYC 7003 (Milan) product lines.

According to MoePC, AMD is on the verge of bringing the Zen 3 architecture to Threadripper processors. Apparently, Threadripper 5000 processors will arrive as early as next month, although we encourage scepticism until leaks start arriving from more reliable sources.

If we take MoePC's information at face value, then it seems that the Threadripper 5000 series will feature substantial changes from Threadripper 3000. For context, MoePC states that AMD has codenamed the Threadripper 5000 series 'Chagall', rather than 'Genesis Peak', which has been mentioned previously. However, Chagall is supposedly AMD's internal marketing codename, with Genesis Peak used as an internal engineering codename.

The slides published by MoePC add that the Ryzen 5000 series supports quad-channel DDR4 3200 RAM, up to 280 W TDPs and 64 PCIe 4.0 lanes. Additionally, AMD will sell up to 64 core and 128 thread parts, but a 16 core edition is rumoured to be arriving as an entry-level model. Details on clock speeds and the specific SKUs AMD will release remain unknown, though.

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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5000 Product Line Revealed

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5000 Product Line Revealed

The forthcoming AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5000 CPU range has been exposed in documents by Wccftech, these documents are based on the recent Gigabyte data breach. 

Yesterday the same documents showed these products to be codenamed Chagall. The next generation of Threadripper CPUs, which will be based on Zen 3, will have at least eight different SKUs with varied core counts ranging from 16 to 64 cores.

Furthermore, the records show that AMD will release Workstation and High-End Desktop models for the WRX80 and TRX40 sockets, respectively, with the same TDP and core counts as their Zen 2 predecessors, according to the docs. The five PRO (Workstation) processors will be available in 64, 32, 24, 16, and 12 core configurations, while the three HEDT processors will be available in 64, 32, and 24 core configurations. The Workstation CPUs will have an 8-channel IMC and 128 PCIe 4.0 lanes, whilst the HEDT processors will only have 64 lanes.

AMD is anticipated to release the Ryzen Threadripper 5000 CPUs in November of 2021, according to rumors.

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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5000 Series Delayed to 2022?

Launch of AMD's upcoming Ryzen Threadripper 5000 series high-end desktop (HEDT) and Threadripper WX workstation processors, is rumored to have been delayed to 2022, according to Greymon55, a reliable source with AMD leaks. Codenamed "Chagall," these processors are compatible with existing sTRX4 and sWRX8 motherboards, based on the AMD TRX40 and AMD WRX80 chipsets, respectively. What's new, is the "Zen 3" microarchitecture.

It remains to be seen if the delay is the result of a last-minute decision by AMD to go with the newer "Zen 3" CCD that comes with 3D Vertical Cache technology, over the conventional "Zen 3" CCD; or some other reason. A 2022 launch would mean that Threadripper 5000 series will be launching around the time when Intel has desktop platforms with DDR5 memory and PCI-Express Gen 5. Threadripper 5000 chips with quad-channel DDR4 memory (four 64-bit wide channels) will be seen offering only comparable memory bandwidth to "Alder Lake" systems with overclocked DDR5 memory (four 40-bit wide channels). AMD is likely to prioritize its next "big" socket for the enterprise segment with EPYC "Genoa," as the company could find itself embattled with Xeon "Sapphire Rapids" processors that come with next-gen I/O.
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AMD Ryzen Threadripper Chagall HEDT CPUs With Zen 3 Cores Leaked, Up To 64 Core & 280W High-Performance Disruption

The latest Gigabyte leak has also spilled the beans on AMD's next-generation Ryzen Threadripper CPUs based on the Zen 3 core architecture, codenamed Chagall.

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5000 CPUs Leaked: Up To 64 Zen 3 Cores, 280W TDP, TRX40 & WRX80 SKUs Detailed

So starting with the details, we knew before that AMD was going to introduce its next-generation Ryzen Threadripper & Threadripper Pro families based on the Zen 3 core architecture under the Chagall codename. The lineup is expected to launch in November 2021 and will be composed of several high-core-count chips.

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In the latest leak, the AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5000 lineup is confirmed as 'AMD Family 19h 08h' processors and will come in at least eight different SKUs, 5 SKUs for the workstation WRX80 and 3 SKUs for the HEDT TRX40 platform. The workstation models will feature 64, 32, 24, 16, 12 core and HEDT models will feature 64, 32, and 24 core variants.

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5000 CPUs Leaked: Up To 64 Zen 3 Cores, 280W TDP, TRX40 & WRX80 SKUs Detailed

Interestingly, while the IOD on the HEDT variants has a power rating of 80W, each workstation chip has a different IOD power rating. The 64 core variant will feature an IOD power rating of 110W, 85W for the 32 core, 80W for the 24 core, 75W for the 16 core, and 62W for the 12 core variant. The 64 core workstation has a 35W higher power rating than its HEDT equivalent and that's due to the fact that the workstation variant will offer 8-channel IMC and deliver up to 128 Gen 4 PCIe lanes vs 64 Gen 4 PCIe lanes on the HEDT models.

You can also see the die area and package comparison of Zen 2 and Zen 3 based Threadripper Desktop CPUs in the following table:

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5000 Zen 3 Chagall HEDT Desktop CPU Die Area Size

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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 5000 'Chagall' HEDT CPUs

The AMD Threadripper 5000 family will be split into two segments, the Ryzen and the Pro variants. The Ryzen Threadripper 5000 family will be aimed at the HEDT and Prosumer market. The lineup is said to feature the Ryzen Threadripper 5990X is the flagship part with up to 64 cores, 128 threads & 256 MB of L3 cache. The CPU will offer 64 PCIe Gen 4.0 lanes and support a 4-channel DDR-3200 memory interface.

MLID states that the launch is expected by November 2021 which is pushing Threadripper into Q4 rather than the previously rumored Q3 launch. The pricing is also said to be higher than the Zen 2 lineup which is expected considering the price bump we saw on the Ryzen 5000 mainstream CPUs versus the Ryzen 3000 models. It is possible that AMD might launch a few Ryzen Threadripper SKUs earlier and keep the flagship 64 core for a later launch as they did with the Threadripper 3990X but that remains to be seen.

AMD Threadripper Pro 5000 'Chagall' Workstation CPUs

Moving over to the workstation parts, we have the AMD Threadripper Pro 5000 CPUs which will include the Threadripper Pro 5995WX as the flagship part. The CPU will also offer 64 cores, 128 threads but feature 8-channel DDR4 memory support and 128 PCIe Gen 4.0 lanes. The launch is expected around early Q1 2022 (January). We also have to remember that the existing Pro chips were only available through OEMs and didn't receive a proper retail launch until months later so that might happen with the next-gen workstation parts too.

While the specifications don't look much different than the existing Threadripper Pro 3000 parts, do remember that the architectural upgrade from Zen 2 to Zen 3 marks a big performance bump along with the added core frequency increase and the new cache architecture.

AMD Zen CPU / APU Roadmap:

Zen ArchitectureZen 1Zen+Zen 2Zen 3Zen 3+Zen 4Zen 5
Process Node14nm12nm7nm7nm6nm?5nm3nm?
ServerEPYC Naples (1st Gen)N/AEPYC Rome (2nd Gen)EPYC Milan (3rd Gen)N/AEPYC Genoa (4th Gen)
EPYC Bergamo (5th Gen?)
EPYC Turin (6th Gen)
High-End DesktopRyzen Threadripper 1000 (White Haven)Ryzen Threadripper 2000 (Coflax)Ryzen Threadripper 3000 (Castle Peak)Ryzen Threadripper 5000 (Chagal)N/ARyzen Threadripper 6000 (TBA)TBA
Mainstream Desktop CPUsRyzen 1000 (Summit Ridge)Ryzen 2000 (Pinnacle Ridge)Ryzen 3000 (Matisse)Ryzen 5000 (Vermeer)Ryzen 6000 (Warhol / Cancelled)Ryzen 7000 (Raphael)Ryzen 8000 (Granite Ridge)
Mainstream Desktop . Notebook APURyzen 2000 (Raven Ridge)Ryzen 3000 (Picasso)Ryzen 4000 (Renoir)
Ryzen 5000 (Lucienne)
Ryzen 5000 (Cezanne)
Ryzen 6000 (Barcelo)
Ryzen 6000 (Rembrandt)Ryzen 7000 (Phoenix)Ryzen 8000 (Strix Point)
Low-Power MobileN/AN/ARyzen 5000 (Van Gogh)
Ryzen 6000 (Dragon Crest)

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