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The website still has the R51 in the top five news stories on the left hand corner of the front page and it's still on the cover of the catalog, showing in the center of the page, and prominently appearing in its pages. It was never in the "products" web page and the owner's manual was never posted online in the help documents to begin with which is why I scanned in the document and made it publicly available. It's not as if Remington removed any references from their website.
lincen wrote:From what we are hearing, or should I say NOT hearing, from Remington lately, it would not be worth the time to call them about serial numbers. They act as if this R51 never existed on their website.
When I contacted Remington Help requesting information on what the 2D Barcode on the side of the firearm was, or then I contacted them regarding when they would post an electronic version of the owner's manual, I did get replies both times. It took a while on the former and details were sparse, but it was confirmed that the matrix barcode is the SN of the firearm. The reply on the PDF of the owner's manual was that they would post it when the gun was officially released. This was after I had bought my R51.
Playing it close to the vest is hurting them. It's burning their public Good Will off the balance sheet as if it were kindling wood.
Still no word on a "fix" for these guns and no hint of a recall.
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PRODUCT SAFETY WARNING
AND RECALL NOTICE
For the safety of you and those around you, Remington strongly encourages you to STOP USING YOUR RIFLE immediately and contact Remington for inspection and repair. To participate in this recall, visit the Remington Recall Center at xmprecall.remington.com. Or call Remington on its toll-free XMP-Recall Hotline at 1-800-243-9700 (Prompt #3 then Prompt #1) Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. EDT. You will be asked to provide your name, address, telephone number, and the serial number of your rifle.
En caso de cualquier pregunta sobre el programa de reemplazo de gatillos, favor contactar a:
Dirección de Commercialización de Armamento y Municiones (DCAM) Avenida Industria Militar 1111, Col. Lomas de Tecamachalco, C.P. 53950, Municipio de Naucalpan de Juárez, Estado de México, México.
Telefonos: (+55) 55 89 61 33; 52 94 56 26; 55 89 11 97 y 52 94 24 32.
E-mail: [email protected]
(Ed. note: For the latest information on the R51, read my most recent update here.)
I spoke with a Remington representative at the 2015 NRA show about the status of the R51 pistol. There has been a wide range of speculation about the gun ever since it was recalled in 2014.
At that time, fixed guns were expected to be returned to owners by October 2014. It is now April 2015, and no guns have been returned to owners. So what gives?Â This is what I was told…
The original problem with the R51 was tolerance stacking. Too many of the parts had to large of a tolerance. When some of these variations were “stacked” as parts were fitted to the guns, problems developed as the overall package was out of spec. I was previously told this at the SHOT Show, but I confirmed this had been the problem and was now fixed.
Remington had the problem fixed months ago, but with the pending move to Alabama, the company chose to delay production rather than gear up the existing facility for production when it was preparing to shut down. It was a tough decision, no doubt, but probably the correct one. I wish the company had been a little more communicative about this.
New R51 pistols are expected to go into production in May with shipping to start in June. Existing customers who have returned defective R51 pistols will get priority treatment. Existing customers could see guns prior to June, but the representative I spoke with was unsure.
I was told the new R51 pistols have a number of new features that are designed to address other concerns that the company fielded from customers. These new features include:
- magazine floor plate redesign – The new magazine floor plate is thicker and protrudes slightly from the bottom of the pistol. Engineers did this to ensure the magazine is firmly seated when inserted.
- trigger reset – The trigger was redesigned so that a hard reset now exists.
- rear sight set screw – Some customers complained to Remington that the rear sights would work loose when shooting the pistol. To fix this problem, all new guns have a set screw in the rear sight to assure the sight will not move.
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The Remington R51 is a semi-automatic pistol announced in late 2013 and was available to the market in January 2014. The R51 is a modernized version of the John Pedersen-designed Remington Model 51 pistol now chambered in 9×19mm caliber. Remington announced plans to offer the pistol in .40 S&W and other calibers. However, no other chamberings were offered by the time of Remington's bankruptcy in 2018.
Pedersen's layout of the Remington R51 is copied in the Walther PPK pistol using a stationary barrel and recoil spring surrounding the barrel. However, a notable design feature is the use of a locking breech block within the slide utilizing the "hesitation-locked" action originally developed by John Pedersen. When the pistol is in battery, the breech block rests slightly forward of the locking shoulder in the frame. When the cartridge is fired, the bolt and slide move together a short distance rearward powered by the energy of the cartridge as in a standard blowback system. When the breech block meets the locking shoulder, it stops, locking the breech. The slide continues rearward with the momentum it acquired in the initial phase. This delay allows chamber pressure to drop while the breech remains locked and the cartridge slightly extracted. Once the bullet leaves the muzzle and pressure drops away, the rearward motion of the slide lifts the breech block from its locking recess through a sliding cam arrangement, continuing the operating cycle. Only manually retracting the slide with the grip safety held in, or firing a cartridge opens the pistol.
Because the action halts cartridge extraction momentarily while holding locked the breech, the R51 is designed to use higher pressure cartridges (9mm Luger +P) than a straight blowback firearm with similar slide weight. The hesitation-locked Model 53 was based on the Model 51 design, and was built by Remington in .45 ACP for Navy trials. The Pedersen design has the recoil spring surrounding the barrel, reducing the pistol's overall profile. Lighter operating parts and longer lock time provide less felt and actual recoil. The R51's low bore axis gives less muzzle rise which also lowers perceived recoil, while the stationary barrel improves accuracy and simplifies construction.
Like the original the new Remington R51 uses an internal hammer with a built-in drop safety and features a single-action trigger. The slide stop is mostly recessed into the left side of the frame. The primary safety is a grip safety which must be depressed before the pistol will fire. The R51 lacks the magazine safety that was present on the original model 51. The trigger guard is undercut to allow a higher grip on the frame. The frame has a 20-degree grip angle designed for natural point shooting, and has checkering on the front strap for improved grip of the gun. The R51 comes standard with polymer grip panels which are held on with conventional torx screws. Remington plans to offer optional rubber and rosewood grip panels as accessories for users desiring a wider, more hand-filling grip. The magazine is a steel single-column design with a polymer floorplate. Capacity is 7 rounds in 9×19mm. The magazine release is ambidextrous. The slide of the R51 is machined from stainless steel and has a matte black FNC finish, while the frame is machined from 7075 aluminum alloy and has a matte black or smoke gray anodized finish. The 3.4" barrel is machined from 416 stainless steel and has a bright finish.
The model R51 was designed and developed in Remington's R&D center in Lexington, KY from 2012-2013. Initial production took place in Pineville, a suburb of Charlotte, North Carolina at Para USA, one of Remington's family of brands in late 2013. In March 2015 all production was moved from North Carolina to Remington's new headquarters in Huntsville, Alabama. Even though production was moved to Huntsville, frames were still marked Charlotte, NC. It was not until 2017 that R51 frames were marked as being made in Huntsville, AL. In the fall of 2017, Remington introduced a new variant two-tone color scheme shown in the 2018 Remington catalog as "Smoke". It had a gray anodized finished frame. The slide and grips are the same black finish. Production for the R51 came to a close after Remington quickly emerged from their 2018 Chapter 11 bankruptcy. In July 2020 Remington filed again for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection and the company was sold off in September 2020.
A press release from Remington in July 2014 said that production of the R51 had been suspended and was expected to resume in October. Customers had informed Remington "that some R51 pistols had performance issues" some serious. Remington determined that these "performance problems resulted from complications during our transition from prototype to mass production." In June 2016, Remington announced it was ready to ship new pistols to those who had returned their R51s for repair and / or replacement.
Recoil criticised the R51 for being unreliable and uncomfortable to shoot and operate. However, they gave appraisal to its compact size and "inspired aesthetic", saying that "for a couple hundred bucks, this gun is totally worth it." Similarly, American Rifleman complained of poor quality magazines which often failed to load properly, but noted its good accuracy and modest price.
The Firearm Blog was more critical, claiming that for a weapon of its size, a 7 round magazine capacity was too small, and it was much too difficult to field strip: "taking the R51 apart for cleaning might be the worst experience of my life, but it's a one time affair. After you field strip the R51 for the first time, I promise you will either sell the gun, or just run it dirty until it kicks the bucket." The Firearm Blog owed most of the R51's problems to its grip safety, which would pull the shooter's aim down and towards the right, and mentioned that the first 200 rounds were a "disgrace", with many malfunctions, including the magazine falling out, failure to feed, failure to extract and stovepipes, and claimed "I don't think I've ever shot something that was quite so uncomfortable."
After the voluntary recall in 2014, Remington went back to the drawing board to fix the issues reported by critics and owners. Some of the reported malfunctions include failure to feed, failure to go completely into battery, failure to extract, failure to eject, magazine pops out after first shot of 7+1, magazine base plate too flimsy, pins drift loose, sights not secure, poor machining on slide and breech block causing jams and rough action. Nearly two years later, on 23 June 2016 Remington began to ship the new updated version, commonly known as "Gen 2", to original owners that sent their handguns in for replacement. On 12 August 2016 Remington began the retail roll-out of the Gen 2 model to consumers.
In the 2017 Remington catalog the R51 was shown to have the following "enhanced" features: Enhanced slide operation - updated internals ensure superior slide performance and smooth function, Precision engineered extractor - built to withstand abuse, extractor precisely engages case rim for sure and forceful extraction and ejection, Snag-free sights - locking snag free sights for fast target acquisition, Finely-tuned recoil spring - force-balanced for impeccable slide feel and positive closure into battery, Action spring bushing - hard chromed action spring bushing for extreme durability, Superior trigger - crisp, single action trigger improves shootability and enhanced accuracy.
A distinguishable change that distinguishes a Gen 2 from a Gen 1 is the location of the R51 logo now located closer to the ejection port. Another is that the Gen 2 sights have set screws. Gen 2 magazines have been revised to have a ramp on the follower as well as a thicker base plate. One item that Remington failed to correct was to shorten the legs of the magazine follower. This simple fix, left up to R51 owners, corrects the failure to feed issue that the R51 suffered from.
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