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#3128835 - 02/03/1807:47 PMPicked up a Christensen Arms MPR.
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Picked up one of the new Modern Precision Rifles from Christensen Arms in 6.5 Creedmoor. This thing is awesome and I sure hope it shoots. Reviews from others who already have them is really positive and seem to have no problem getting half to sub half MOA. I topped it with Nightforce rings and a gen II PST 3-15 FFP.

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#3128837 - 02/03/1807:50 PMRe: Picked up a Christensen Arms MPR. [Re: Kingzero]
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Nice looking rig!! Be curious to hear how it shoots!

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#3128838 - 02/03/1807:56 PMRe: Picked up a Christensen Arms MPR. [Re: Kingzero]
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Looks great. What does it weigh?

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#3128858 - 02/03/1809:14 PMRe: Picked up a Christensen Arms MPR. [Re: Kingzero]
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It weights 10lbs 9oz the way it sits in the pic. The bare rifle is 7lbs 14oz which is 8oz more than they advertise. My suppressor will add right at another pound.

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#3129096 - 02/04/1803:47 PMRe: Picked up a Christensen Arms MPR. [Re: Kingzero]
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I have their CA15 3 Gun with an 18” carbon fiber barrel. It shoots great. It came with that same brake in titanium. Didn’t take me long to take it off, way to loud! Never really understood why one would need a brake on a .223 anyway. If your barrel jumps up a little due to the lite weight of the carbon fiber you can pull the front two top screws out of that brake and it will keep the barrel down. I noticed mine doing it some on the bench and after opening up the front two ports on the brake it stayed down. I really haven’t noticed any jump after removing the brake and can still keep my target in the scope after each shot, plus my ears don’t ring afterwards.

Nice gun. I’ve been looking at them as well. But I’m wanting a .243 and they don’t chamber it in that caliber.



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#3129193 - 02/04/1808:21 PMRe: Picked up a Christensen Arms MPR. [Re: Kingzero]
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I got out to shoot it today but ran into some problems. I had 7 rounds of American Eagle match 140's that I was going to burn up and everything went good. I used 2 rounds to get a rough zero and shot a 3 round group @ 1.1" and the other 2 @ 0.65". Not super but not terrible and I wasn't very stable. Next I moved to some 120 ELD's I had left over from my Tikka.....and they wouldn't chamber. Like I couldn't move the bolt forward the last 1/4". Well [beeep]....went home and got out the OAL gage and calipers and after a while found out this rifle has a tight throat....like really tight. I have some 140 Matchkings that measure .263" with my calipers and with enough persuasion can get one pushed in to the lands. It also takes a little persuasion to get back out, but it fits. I tried that with a 120 Eld that measures .2635" and it's a no-go. I grabbed another ELD, chucked it in my drill and took some 320 grit sandpaper to it till it measured .2625" and it will slide into the lands. I loaded 2 dummy rounds with the ELD's and did the old sharpie trick. You can see in the pic where the regular ELD hits and prevents chambering and where the sanded one chambers but still drags a little.



I don't know whether I should buy more factory American Eagle ammo and shoot to see if it gets better or to send it back. Kinda sucks when you spend this much money and [beeep] doesn't work. Wonder if it was cut with a worn out reamer or what? Let me know what you guys think.

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#3129361 - 02/05/1812:13 PMRe: Picked up a Christensen Arms MPR. [Re: Kingzero]
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My RPR has a tight throat also. I measured all my bullets I reload in the RPR with my Hornady OAL. I need to load to the book and this gives me about 2 thousands to play with. 2 of the bullets can't be loaded to the book without being jammed into the lands. I suppose this is one of the things that makes this rifle a RPR rifle besides the rifling. Rudy


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Then scrub the barrel back and forth using the caliber-correct nylon brush soaked with solvent. Hunters took to it immediately, and since then it went on to become one of Christensen Arms’ top sellers. What patern is this of? Nah. Ammo Wallet $ 34.95. I don't make a ton of money. As your barrel breaks in, you will notice that it will clean faster and without using as many cleaning patches or solvent. Thread starter Kbbond; Start date Mar 4, 2019; Mar 4, 2019 #1 Kbbond New member. The guy on the other end started off by condescendingly asking if I hadn't followed their break in. It's just a PSA. inch shift and a group I can't even measure. This is generally done when the barrel is at the “blank” stage before the barrel has been contoured, crowned and chambered. 3. Picture of the gun below. ... Garaysar FEAR-118 12Ga 14.55" Barrel 4+1 Rnd Black - $449.99. rifle is absolutely bat shit insane... like insane. Barrel length: 24 Hand Lapped, Type: Rifle: Bolt Action. While this lapping technique provides great results, the post-lapping machining during the chambering process adds additional tooling marks. I haven't seen any response. So basically, I'm extremely skeptical of the firearms industry now. The Christensen Arms Ridgeline rifle features a stainless steel action, patented match grade carbon fiber barrel, hand-laid fiberglass stock, Timney trigger, titanium muzzle brake, and aerospace DNA precision. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Christensen Arms AICS-Compatible Magazine $ 34.95 – $ 39.95. Manufactures are supposed to do all that themselves but when they dont you get a situation like mine, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Also the fact the POI shift would change relative to round count and periods of rest is really indicative of bad barrel deficiencies. I called Christensen Arms and received a rude reception. Nylon bore brushes – one the correct size for your caliber, one 1 or 2 sizes smaller, High quality cleaning rod with ball-bearing handle, To lubricate and neutralize ammonia solvent, To protect the bore throat and keep solvent from entering the trigger mechanicism. With the bore guide inserted, run a solvent-soaked patch through the barrel, breach to muzzle, removing it at the muzzle. If your rifle can consistently do that, without discounting fliers or all the usual stuff people throw out so they can claim their rifle is "half moa all day e'ry day if I do my part", you've got a rifle that shoots exceptionally well for Remington 700 of its era...and that's an era when Remingtons were built to a much higher quality standard than they are now. I spend two hours shooting Hornady 178 ELD Match. The Christensen Arms® Modern Precision Bolt-Action Rifle features a free-floated, 416R stainless steel, hand-lapped, and button-rifled barrel with an Aerograde carbon-fiber wrap and V-Block bedding to deliver pin-point accuracy. So until you send it back and still end up with something unsatisfactory, I think your level of upset is unreasonable. Warne® Mountain Tech Scope Rings $ 139.95 – $ 149.95. You will notice a blue tint on the patches from dissolving copper residue. Report a problem. You dont have the headache of timing and blueprinting and dealing with all the intricacies of building a bolt gun. Due to the process that Christensen Arms uses in laying their carbon fiber, heat is pulled from the chamber and throat area of the barrel. Click this link. I would try a new optic before any other jump. Then scrub the barrel back and forth using the caliber-correct nylon brush soaked with solvent. Federal Trophy Copper 180 grain. Also double check that scope mount screws aren't too long and dead heading into the barrel shank, and that the action screws aren't being buttfucked askew by the stock and putting undue tension on the action or barrel. Weight: 7.3 lbs. Crush Washer $ 5.95. Enter your email below to be notified when this product is back in stock. The CA rep then proceeded to tell me that using 178s was also the problem and that 200grs would shrink it to sub MOA. I have very little faith in any company's ability to deliver products to spec in a timely manor, if at all. Anyway, it is always hard to compare prices between older, used items and new items, but if we look at new rifles, you've got budget rifles at around $500 (Ruger American Predator), these will be basic rifles with plain stocks. My family has had an FFL for years. Christensen Arms claims that their carbon fiber-wrapped barrels may last up to 25% longer than their steel barrels due to the engineered carbon layup and resulting heat transfer. Like thats basic physics, pretty sure its called the thermodynamics... Obviously hot barrels have a POI shift. I routinely shoot "long distance" at Marine Base Quantico on the Marine Corps Shooting Team Club's 1000 yard ranges. The one area where I did find a little uneven finish was on the inch closest to the chamber where the carbon fiber is thinnest. I also would have tried a proven optic on it, you never know, it’s not like you’d be the first person to use that famous Vortex warranty. Gets it back and yeah it shoots better than with the barrel shot out but never as good as mine with just cheap factory ammo. long and is free floating. I spent 2k on a barreled action from a very reputable shop last year and it took 6 months longer than quoted. ", oh i tried that too. And have a local Smith put it together or get a prefit and do it yourself. Today I am going to test it for the first time since its return on the 100 yard line. MPN: CA10280-214411. First, a 416R Stainless Barrel is machined in-house with a slim profile, and is meticulously rifled and bore-scoped for precision, giving Christensen Arms the confidence to make a sub-MOA guarantee. At 50, I would be able to get a 3 or 4 round group in a roughly 4 inch group (still so unacceptable) and then I'd get a unpredictable POI shift from 4 to 10! And of course there are upgrades to consider here too (a CF barrel instead of a stainless barrel or even a steel barrel, having the chassis/action/barrel cerakoted in a particular color). Nowhere closer to having any resemblance of a zero. When it finally arrived I had to send it back to be reworked. Around Christmas, I bought an MPR in .300 Win Mag with the 26 inch carbon fiber barrel. I checked all rail screws with a inlb torque wrench. UPC: 810651027017. But beyond the smell of powder, the piles of hot brass, the sore shoulders, the ringing of steel, and the smiles on the faces of the shooters lurks a solemn task. Read on to learn what is the best long range hunting rifle, the best rifle brands, and the most accurate bolt action rifle right out of the box. Repeat until no blue/copper residue is found. Both ended up having 20" barrels when they arrived at my FFL. This situation is something else... Ive never had an issue like this with any rifle I own from any manufacturer. Rem 870? Each and every CA rifle is test fired before it's shipped to the customer. And would be completely back to square one attempting to figure out what the hell was going on. I empathize with you. The action is fitted to a Christensen Arms Carbon Fiber Tension Rimfire Barrel with a 22 LR Bentz match chamber to ensure superior accuracy and performance. It's well known that modern barrels see ZERO improvements with break in. Gunnison, UT Since 1995 IMO CA having this policy on their website is just an out to allow them to brush off defects on to the owner. Good action, quality barrel from the usuals, etc. Christensen Arms Mesa rifle. Unless my brand new Razor ii has a SERIOUS problem (which we all know is extremely unlikely) then its most likely the gun. After 5 strings the groups were so open I had trouble identifying which shot was from which string on the 4 quadrants of my ST-4. BSF Barrel with Superlative Gas Block Otherwise with my combo of the Brigand Arms CF handguard…I found that it rubbed the top of the gas block. The beauty of the Traverse’s carbon-fiber barrel is manifold and goes beyond appearance. Christensen Arms doesn’t put lousy triggers in any of its guns, and the Mesa Titanium is no exception. When I walked the rep through my barn sized groupings and insane wandering zero, the CA representative was entirely dismissive and LAUGHED saying "well yeah this happens to all guns when they heat up". You can definitely see some people having issues with groups being around 2'-3', but 10'? It is a lot of fun as well, there’s no denying that. Send us a message and one of our reps will get back to you. All you could hit was the mountain. One of those guys and I both bought matching CA .300 Win Mags, like 2 numbers apart on the S/N. Always sold out online. I have defended CA's, before I even shot this rifle, in this subreddit. However, no POI shift was ever the same and never returned to a previous zero. Next, using the undersized brush, run a solvent-soaked patch through the barrel, scrubbing back and forth for a total of 20 passes through the barrel. You’ve got to remember that I only paid $99. It's heat soak... Like all these reports of heat issues with CA barrels are completely true. Tolerance and modern milling means there is no need for a "break in" anymore. Second to that, I agree with the notion of a suspect scope. Then the threaded muzzle is paired with a thread protector, and the same adjustable match-grade trigger used in our centerfire rifles is installed alongside our standard bolt-knob. I have a stainless savage .300 win mag that I now call my mountain gun. This is 100% a scope issue. Got a Cooper and a bunch of Blasers instead lol. Proper barrel break-in will smooth the bore of your barrel to creates better consistency and accuracy. I buy some of that. DEPENDABLE. Firearms only. I went from defending Christensen Arms, to urging people to never buy one of these rifles. If you recall from the first video out of the box I had ejections issues. Ehh. Follow with dry patches until they come out clean and dry. Swap it with something of a known quantity, even it sucks for the application. An hour of work, but at least by the end you will know without a doubt who to direct your list of grievences towards. Barrel break in can be one of the most important and most misunderstood aspects of extracting the utmost accuracy from your rifle. Proof barrels are laid up at a 45-degree angle with a mono filament carbon fiber. We take them on trade all the time for our custom rifles. I mounted the Spuhr and Razor using manufacture specs, using rosin on the interior of the rings and triple checking all torque readings. Select options Quick View. Put in copper and now it works great. PROOF Research’s Greg Hamilton and Sean Murphy Repeat Top Tough Man Honors at 2021 Mammoth Sniper Challenge Hamilton and Murphy take 1st place for the second year in a row at the elite precision rifle shooting competition, proving once again, the benefits of a PROOF Research® composite barrel. I want to start off by saying I am no rookie when it comes to long guns. Scopes are complicated, fragile things with many moving parts - and things coming loose can easily cause your issues. https://christensenarms.com/support/, " To request repair, adjustment or replacement of the firearm according to this limited warranty, fill out the form by clicking here or return the firearm unloaded and freight prepaid to CHRISTENSEN ARMS at 550 North Cemetery Road, Gunnison, UT 84634. At 100 my first group completely covered edge to edge of a standard ST-4. After talking for 10 minutes the rep begrudgingly offered me to send in my rifle under warranty but I was so pissed I said I'd call him back if/when I decide to do so. My go-to Superlative Arms block (this time in .936 for the bull barrel) went on easily after I made a small etch marking on the stainless section of the barrel. Not even trying to be negative towards CA. Caliber: 6.5 Creedmoor Length: 43.5” I like the drop box mag, carbon barrel, and the overall look of the gun, and the fact that the action is based off the 700. That is, to gather fair and objective data about which of 2016’s new guns are worth you spending your money on. I call them back and ask what ammo they ran through it. Right now anyway leaning towards Browning Hell's Canyon or a Christensen Arms Mesa. Such a large group it wasn't even measurable. I allowed for about a 10 minute break. LIGHTWEIGHT. Now it shoots 3/4" or smaller 3 shot groups all day long. Because all I could hit with it was a mountain. Obviously guns have a POI shift but it should be at least be repeatable or make some sense. The Ranger 22 is an ultralight, full-sized rifle with an 18' carbon fiber tension barrel, carbon fiber stock, aluminum receiver, and overall streamlined design that bring it in at a shockingly low weight of 5.1 pounds! They could be everything promised and more, and still be a head scratcher. I have other qualms of the gun that aren't functional issues. Although many different break-in sequences exist, the following has been developed over the last 15 years, and is very simple and has given excellent results. Also the fact the POI shift would change relative to round count and periods of rest is really indicative of bad barrel deficiencies. I just got the Christensen Arms Ranger 22 back from the factory. Select options Quick View. I will always admit when I dont know what I dont know; but occasionally it's something else. Again, ensure the patch exits both ends of the barrel before reversing direction. Looking for some opinions or experiences with Christensen Arms.. looking at the Carbon Classic with a 22" barrel for weight and swinging purposes. Put a different scope on and boom. Select options Quick View. Follow this step with a dry patch until it comes out clean and dry. Carbon Fiber Javelin Pro Hunt Bipod $ 329.95. Christensen Arms Ridgeline. Magazine: 3+1. I forwent any break in as its

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The AMMO:
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THE TEST:
2x 5 shot groups per rifle of each ammo type
10 rounds fired consecutively, with a short pause between strings of 5.
Rifles allowed 15 min to cool between each 10 shot string. Barrels cool to the touch.
Both optics run at 14x magnification
Same rest & rear bag used for both rifles.
Target dots are 2 inch dots
The only variable besides the rifles was my growing irritation.
I did fire 10 rounds of american gunner thru both rifles for the same of verifying zero and fouling prior to testing.

TEST 1: 147gr ELD Match #81501
Left two targets are CTR, right two are MPR (f*cking first shot is almost always a flyer, neither rifle loved it)
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TEST 2: Hornady 143gr ELD-X Precision Hunter #81499
Top two CTR (I f*cked that left target), bottom two were MPR

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TEST 3: Hornady 140gr ELD Match #81500
Left 2 are CTR, right two are f*cking blank because it was too hot for the MPR. Those are the two shots I fired that blew primers*
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TEST 4: Barnes 140gr Precision Match OTM BT
Top CTR, bottom MPR (Listen, I got excited because that left target 3 shot clover was my first 3 shots and I thought I finally found "the load." F*ck no)
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TEST 5: Federal Premium 140gr Nosler Accubond (this shit kicks much harder than anything else I shot today)
CTR Top(began to get annoyed pulled a bit), MPR Bottom (Got excited again on the right, but I'm thinking it was more miracle than accuracy)
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CONCLUSION: *SURPRISE* Tikkas can shoot. My MPR does not. It is "OK" at best, and I do not feel that it is close to being worth the $2500 MSRP based on accuracy. Everything else on it is GREAT, it just does not perform on a level that matches it's price tag. And i've yet to see a solid 5 shot MOA or better group. So, looking for opinions... Talk to christensen? just re-barrel it, the action and all is great...? Sell it and buy something else (Seekins Havak was my second choice)

Also need a brake for the Tikka... 200 rounds in a day even with 6.5 you feel it a bit.

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All brass from the "match ammo" was returned to the boxes they came in, this was just the extra bulk loads I fired.
CTR round count: 280
MPR round count: 160

 

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